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Monday, January 25, 2016

I Peter 1:8-9

A friend has asked me about this passage of Scripture.  I will give context from the Scriptures versions.  Also I like the translation of Kenneth Wuest.  Mr. Wuest was the Greek professor for Moody Bible Institute.
1Pe 1:3  Blessed be the Elohim and Father of our Master יהושע Messiah, who according to His great compassion has caused us to be born again to a living expectation through the resurrection of יהושע Messiah from the dead,
1Pe 1:4  to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and unfading, having been kept in the heavens for you,
1Pe 1:5  who are protected by the power of Elohim through belief, for a deliverance ready to be revealed in the last time,
1Pe 1:6  in which you exult, even though for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by manifold trials,
1Pe 1:7  in order that the proving of your belief – much more precious than gold that perishes, and proven by fire – might be found to result in praise and respect and esteem at the revelation of יהושע Messiah,
1Pe 1:8  whom having not seen, you love; in whom you exult with unspeakable and esteemed joy, yet not seeing, but believing, 
1Pe 1:9  obtaining the goal of your belief: a deliverance of lives. 
1Pe 1:10  Concerning this deliverance the prophets have sought out and searched out, prophesying concerning the favour for you,
1Pe 1:11  searching to know what, or what sort of time, the Spirit which was in them was pointing out concerning Messiah, when it was bearing witness beforehand the sufferings of Messiah, and the esteems that would follow,
1Pe 1:12  to whom it was revealed that they were serving, not themselves, but you, in these matters which now have been announced to you through those who brought the Good News to you by the Set-apart Spirit sent from heaven – into which messengers long to look into.

1Pe 1:8  Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
1Pe 1:9  Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Word of Yahweh translation
1Pe 1:8  Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of praise:
1Pe 1:9  Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Scripture from ancient Eastern text
1Pe 1:8  Whom you have not seen, but whom you yet love, and in whose faith you rejoice with exceeding joy that cannot be described;
1Pe 1:9  And you will receive the reward for your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Greek interlinear
1Pe 1:8  ονG3739 WHOM   ουκG3756 NOT   ειδοτεςG1492 [G5761] HAVING SEEN   αγαπατεG25 [G5719] YE LOVE :   ειςG1519 ON   ονG3739 WHOM   αρτιG737 NOW   μηG3361 "THOUGH" NOT   ορωντεςG3708 [G5723] LOOKING,   πιστευοντεςG4100 [G5723] δεG1161 BUT BELIEVING,   αγαλλιασθεG21 [G5736] YE EXULT   χαραG5479 WITH JOY   ανεκλαλητωG412 UNSPEAKABLE   καιG2532 AND   δεδοξασμενηG1392 [G5772] GLORIFIED,  
1Pe 1:9  κομιζομενοιG2865 [G5734] RECEIVING   τοG3588 THE   τελοςG5056 END   τηςG3588 πιστεωςG4102 υμωνG5216 OF YOUR FAITH,   σωτηριανG4991 "THE" SALVATION   ψυχωνG5590 OF "YOUR" SOULS;  

In order that the approval of your faith which faith was examined by testing for the purpose of being approved, that approval being much more precious than the approval of gold which perishes even though that gold be approved by fire testing may be discovered after scrutiny to result in praise and glory and honor at the time of the revelation of Yahshua Messiah.
whom having not seen you love because of His preciousness, in whom now not seeing yet believing you are to be rejoicing with an enexpressible and glorified joy upon the occasion of your receiving the promised consummation of your faith which is the (final) salvation of your souls.

I believe what we are seeing here is the fact that salvation is not complete until Messiah has been revealed at the second coming.  Salvation cannot be a once for all thing if it is something that is a process.  We see here and other places in Scripture that our salvation is not dependent upon a one time prayer of repentance.  It is dependent upon how we run the race that has been set before us.  In I John we are told several times that our love for the Father is demonstrated by our keeping His commands.
  1Jn 2:3  And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 
1Jn 2:4  He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 
1Jn 2:5  But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 
It is interesting to note John says it is not a new command but the old.  Nothing was done away with.  Nothing was added.  
1Jn 2:7  Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. 
John uses very plain language if we have eyes to see and ears to hear

1Jn 5:1  Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 
1Jn 5:2  By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 
1Jn 5:3  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 
1Jn 5:4  For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 
1Jn 5:5  Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 

Thursday, January 7, 2016

Unconditional Eternal Security 2

Eternal Security Part 2

Arguments for:
Joh 10:28 “And I give them everlasting life, and they shall by no means ever perish, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand.
Joh 10:29 “My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all. And no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.

At first glance this may seem to indicate an argument for Eternal security. The problem is the rest of the context.
Joh 10:27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.1 Footnote: 1Rev. 14:4-5.

Only those who hear and follow the shepherd are called His sheep. His sheep are the only ones who have eternal life. In the original Greek the words Hear and Follow are in the present tense. This means that His sheep are those that are actively hearing and following. This cannot be someone who at another time heard and followed and is not currently doing so. The security is conditional. What does it mean to hear and to follow? The Greek to hear comes from a word meaning to comprehend or understand. In this context the word follow, in the Greek means one who cleaves or holds firmly with all of his might with out letting go. So they must be cleaving to the Shepherd in believing trust and obedience. Those who hold to Him must also follow His lead and act according to His example. You cannot be following if you are not obeying.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, have been grafted in among them, and came to share the root and fatness of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18 do not boast against the branches. And if you boast, remember: you do not bear the root, but the root bears you!
Rom 11:19 You shall say then, “The branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.”
Rom 11:20 Good! By unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by belief. Do not be arrogant, but fear.
Rom 11:21 For if Elohim did not spare the natural branches, He might not spare you either.
Rom 11:22 See then the kindness and sharpness of Elohim: on those who fell sharpness, but toward you kindness, if you continue in His kindness, otherwise you also shall be cut off.

As a believer we are grafted into the good olive tree. But if we choose to not continue in His goodness we can be cut off.

Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of the Messiah? Shall pressure, or distress, or persecution, or scarcity of food, or nakedness, or danger, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it has been written, “For Your sake we are killed all day long, we are reckoned as sheep of slaughter.”
Rom 8:37 But in all this we are more than overcomers through Him who loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor messengers nor principalities nor powers, neither the present nor the future,
Rom 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of Elohim which is in Messiah יהושע our Master.

What about these verses. These verses are not talking about salvation but about the love of Elohim. Love and salvation are two different gifts from Elohim.

I believe this final passage sums up the whole issue. Eph 4:17 So this I say, and witness in the Master, that you should no longer walk as the gentiles walk,1 in the futility of their mind, Footnote: 11 Cor. 12:2, and Jer. 10:2.
Eph 4:18 having been darkened in their understanding, having been estranged from the life of Elohim, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart,
Eph 4:19 who, having become callous, have given themselves up to indecency, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
Eph 4:20 But you have not so learned Messiah,
Eph 4:21 if indeed you have heard Him and were taught by Him, as truth is in יהושע:
Eph 4:22 that you put off – with regard to your former way of life – the old man, being corrupted according to the desires of the deceit,
Eph 4:23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
Eph 4:24 and that you put on the renewed man1 which was created according to Elohim, in righteousness and set-apartness of the truth. Footnote: 1Rom. 8:1.
Eph 4:25 Therefore, having put off the false, speak truth, each one with his neighbour, for we are members of one another.
Eph 4:26 “Be wroth, but do not sin.” Do not let the sun go down on your rage,
Eph 4:27 nor give place to the devil.
Eph 4:28 Let him who stole steal no more, but rather let him labour, working with his hands what is good, so that he has somewhat to share with those in need.
Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt word come out of your mouth, but only such as is good for the use of building up, so as to impart what is pleasant to the hearers.
Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Set-apart Spirit of Elohim, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and displeasure, and uproar, and slander be put away from you, along with all evil.
Eph 4:32 And be kind towards one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as Elohim also forgave you in Messiah.
Eph 5:1 Become, then, imitators of Elohim as beloved children.
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Messiah also has loved us, and gave Himself for us, a gift and an offering to Elohim for a sweet-smelling fragrance.
Eph 5:3 But whoring and all uncleanness, or greed of gain, let it not even be named among you, as is proper among set-apart ones –
Eph 5:4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather thanksgiving.
Eph 5:5 For this you know, that no one who whores, nor unclean one, nor one greedy of gain, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the reign of Messiah and Elohim.
Eph 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words,1 for because of these the wrath of Elohim comes upon the sons of disobedience. Footnote: 1See 4:14.
Eph 5:7 Therefore do not become partakers with them.
Eph 5:8 For you were once darkness,1 but now you are light in the Master. Walk as children of light – Footnote: 1See 2:2, 4:18, Col. 3:7.
Eph 5:9 for the fruit of the Spirit1 is in all goodness, and righteousness, and truth – Footnote: 1See Philip 1:11.
Eph 5:10 proving what is well-pleasing to the Master.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the fruitless works of darkness, but rather reprove1 them. Footnote: 1Or confute, or expose.
Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of what is done by them in secret.
Eph 5:13 But all matters being reproved1 are manifested by the light, for whatever is manifested is light. Footnote: 1Or confuted, or exposed.
Eph 5:14 That is why He says, “Wake up, you who sleep, and arise from the dead, and Messiah shall shine on you.”
Eph 5:15 See then that you walk exactly, not as unwise, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 redeeming the time, because the days are wicked.
Eph 5:17 So then do not be foolish, but understand what the desire of יהוה is.
Eph 5:18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is loose behaviour, but be filled with the Spirit,
Eph 5:19 speaking to each other in psalms and songs of praise and spiritual songs, singing and striking the strings in your heart to the Master,
Eph 5:20 giving thanks always for all to Elohim the Father, in the Name of our Master יהושע Messiah,
Eph 5:21 subjecting yourselves to each other in the fear1 of Elohim. Footnote: 1Ex. 20:20.

There are many who do not handle the Word of Truth wisely. They pick and choose verses here and there and use them to make them say things Elohim's word does not. Please when you research use the whole context and then the greater context of the whole Word of Elohim.

If the doctrine of Unconditional Eternal Security is true then why do the New Testament writers spend so much time telling us to avoid sin, be obedient to Elohim, live a life that is set apart or holy, and so on. All they would have needed to do was to tell us believe Yeshua died for your sins, be born again, and after that you can do what you would like to because you are guaranteed a spot in heaven.

Until next time. Continue to Study to show yourselves approved. I am planning on writing a post about signs or messages we want to send to those around us.  

Tuesday, January 5, 2016

needing to organiZe

I really need to find a way to organize my posts here.  I am open to suggestions.  Thank you

Eternal Security Part I

This is pretty lengthy due to all the Scripture in it.  I ask you to do your own research also.  Do not take my word for it.  Be a Berean.  
Can a person lose their salvation? Let the Scriptures speak.

Mat 10:21 “And brother shall deliver up brother to death, and a father his child. And children shall rise up against parents and shall put them to death.
Mat 10:22 “And you shall be hated by all for My Name’s sake. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.1 Footnote: 1See 24:13.

Mat 13:5 “And others fell on rocky places, where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up, because they had no depth of soil.
Mat 13:6 “But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered. Mat 13:20 “And that sown on rocky places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy,
Mat 13:21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately he falls away.

The grace of Elohim works together with man's obedience which then results in steadfast enduring faith or faithfulness.

1Pe 1:22 Now that you have cleansed your lives in obeying the truth through the Spirit to unfeigned brotherly love, love one another fervently with a clean heart,
1Pe 1:23 having been born again – not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible – through the living Word of Elohim, which remains forever,
1Pe 1:24 because “All flesh is as grass, and all the esteem of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, and its flower falls away,
1Pe 1:25 but the Word of Elohim remains forever.”1 And this is the Word, announced as Good News to you. Footnote: 1Isa. 40:6-8.
1Pe 2:1 Having put aside, then, all evil, and all deceit, and hypocrisies, and envyings, and all evil words,
1Pe 2:2 as newborn babes, desire the unadulterated milk of the Word, in order that you grow by it,
1Pe 2:3 if indeed you have tasted that the Master is good.
1Pe 2:4 Drawing near to Him, a living Stone – rejected indeed by men, but chosen by Elohim and precious –
1Pe 2:5 you also, as living stones, are being built up, a spiritual house, a set-apart priesthood, to offer up spiritual slaughter offerings acceptable to Elohim through יהושע Messiah.
1Pe 2:6 Because it is contained in the Scripture, “See, I lay in Tsiyon a chief corner-stone, chosen, precious, and he who believes on Him shall by no means be put to shame.”1 Footnote: 1Isa. 28:16.
1Pe 2:7 This preciousness, then, is for you who believe; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner-stone,”1 Footnote: 1Ps. 118:22.
1Pe 2:8 and “A stone of stumbling and a rock that makes for falling,”1 who stumble because they are disobedient2 to the Word, to which they also were appointed. Footnotes: 1Isa. 8:14. 2See John 3:36, Heb. 3:18.
1Pe 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a set-apart nation, a people for a possession, that you should proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvellous light,
1Pe 2:10 who once were not a people, but now the people of Elohim; who had not obtained compassion, but now obtained compassion.

Purified through obedience 1:22

1Jn 5:1 Everyone who believes that יהושע is the Messiah has been born of Elohim, and everyone who loves the One bringing forth also loves the one having been born of Him.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of Elohim, when we love Elohim and guard His commands.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love for Elohim, that we guard His commands,1 and His commands are not heavy, Footnote: 1See 5:2, 2 John v. 6, John 14:15.
1Jn 5:4 because everyone having been born of Elohim overcomes the world. And this is the overcoming that has overcome the world: our belief.
1Jn 5:5 Who is the one who overcomes the world but he who believes that יהושע is the Son of Elohim?

Obedience to His Commands or instructions is the proof of the love we have for Elohim.

om 2:6 who “shall render to each one according to his works”:1 Footnote: 1Matt. 16:27.
Rom 2:7 everlasting life to those who by persistence in good work seek for esteem, and respect, and incorruptibility;
Rom 2:8 but wrath and displeasure to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness;
Rom 2:9 affliction and distress on every human being working what is evil, of the Yehuḏite first, and also of the Greek;
Rom 2:10 but esteem, respect, and peace to everyone working what is good, to the Yehuḏite first and also to the Greek.
Rom 2:11 For there is no partiality with Elohim.
Rom 2:12 For as many as sinned without Torah shall also perish without Torah, and as many as sinned in the Torah shall be judged by the Torah.
Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the Torah are righteous in the sight of Elohim, but the doers of the law1 shall be declared right. Footnote: 1Mt. 7:21-27, James 2:14-24.

Jas 2:16 but one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” but you do not give them the bodily needs, what use is it?
Jas 2:17 So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead.
Jas 2:18 But someone might say, “You have belief, and I have works.” Show me your belief without your works, and I shall show you my belief by my works.
Jas 2:19 You believe that Elohim is one. You do well. The demons also believe – and shudder!
Jas 2:20 But do you wish to know, O foolish man, that the belief without the works is dead?
Jas 2:21 Was not Aḇraham our father declared right by works when he offered Yitsḥaq his son on the altar?
Jas 2:22 Do you see that the belief was working with his works, and by the works the belief was perfected?
Jas 2:23 And the Scripture was filled which says, “Aḇraham believed Elohim, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.” And he was called, “Elohim’s friend.”
Jas 2:24 You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone.
Jas 2:25 In the same way, was not Raḥaḇ the whore also declared right by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works.

Luk 14:28 “For who of you, wishing to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it?
Luk 14:29 “Otherwise, when he has laid the foundation, and is unable to finish it, all who see it begin to mock him,
Luk 14:30 saying, ‘This man began to build and was unable to finish.’

One of the words we see over and over is that of Keep. Or guard, hold firm, attend carefully. We see this over and over again in Deuteronomy. The Hebrew word picture is that of Guarding to keep with all of ones might or power. Grasping firmly.

Joh 15:14 “You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.1 Footnote: 1See Ex. 20:6, vv. 21&23, 1 John 5:2-3, 2 John v. 6.
Heb 2:1 Because of this we have to pay more attention to what we have heard, lest we drift away.
Heb 2:2 For if the word spoken through messengers proved to be firm, and every transgression and disobedience received a right reward,
Heb 2:3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a deliverance, which first began to be spoken by the Master, and was confirmed to us by those that heard,

Grace through faithfulness. Yes faithfulness. The English understanding of the word faith is a passive understanding. In the Greek and Hebrew Faith is active. So it would be better translated as faithfulness. We also see we need to add to our faith...Make an effort to enter the narrow gate. We need to guard our hearts...

Looking at Lk 8:21 and 6:46-49 we are reminded to dig deep foundations. The deep foundation is that of Torah or Yahweh Elohim's instructions for His set-apart people.

Looking at Eph 2:8-9 we need to read the whole context. We cannot stop at verse 9.
Eph 2:8 For by favour you have been saved, through belief, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of Elohim,
Eph 2:9 it is not by works, so that no one should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Messiah יהושע unto good works, which Elohim prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

So true salvation is the WORK of faithfulness. The Word of Elohim working in you as you Receive, obey and put into practice that which you have received. I will go into some of the arguments that are used for eternal security another time. For now this is pretty lengthy. Or you yourselves can look those things up and be sure to look carefully at the context in which they are in.

Monday, January 4, 2016

Moving Forword

We left Minnesota way back in April of 2014 with the intention of going where and when Abba El led us.  It has been a different kind of journey for us.  At this time we are getting ready to move forward to where and how and when the Father leads.  I have spent hours upon hours since the 8th of Dec looking for work.  It seems to us those doors are closing here in MO.  Never has it taken me so long to find employment.  So, Is the Father telling us He still desires us to be mobile?  It seems so to us.  There have been so many lives touched here and friendships made that it will be extremely difficult to move forward.  But that does not mean that Father will not lead us back here at some point and time.  We are giving it until the end of this week to have meaningful employment and then we must move forward as the funds for doing so are limited and we desire to be good stewards of what Elohim has given us.
   Currently it looks as if there are two doors open.  One in Illinois to help for a little while and minister to those who are seeking a closer walk with Father. and then moving forward to the next open door perhaps back in MN.
Please pray for us as we diligently seek Father and His will.  It is possible we were not supposed to be here in MO for years but to just touch the lives of those Father brought into our path.
 So, the journey continues and we are moving forward to new adventures with our Father.