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Wednesday, March 27, 2013

An Answer For Our Faith

How would you answer this person? You can read my responses to what this person says.
 
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  • 2. Where does it say that?
    Where does it say that? 
  • Ok  Can these questions be answered first?  Do you have an answer?
There is no where in Scripture where the 7th day Sabbath has ever been done away with or any other day blessed by Yahweh.



Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Question for me:

  •  How sufficiant is the work of the Cross Part or Whole
My Answer:
Michael Race There is no salvation apart from the work of Messiah on the stake. However, His work did not do away with the above. Salvation is by faith alone through the atoning work of Yahshua Messiah.
 

By saying the above I am referring to the fact of maintaining the 7th day Sabbath. 
What is the work of Messiah sufficiant for? 
It is sufficiant for Salvation.  The Law cannot and never could provide salvation.
Eph 2:8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
So the next response was this.
Faith plus your works
 

  • Michael Race Faith alone. Eph 2:8 For by favour you have been saved, through belief, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of Elohim,
    Eph 2:9 it is not by works, so that no one should boast.
    Eph 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Messiah
    For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
So apparently we were created to do good works. 
Jas 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Jas 1:23

For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
Jas 1:24
For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
Jas 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
Jas 2:14
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

Jas 2:17
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

So the next response to answer then become this:

1. Have you kept the whole law. What about Jesus "coming to fullfill the Law"
Michael Race there is nothing in the law that can save. This is one of the problems with the Jewish people. They believe keeping the law is salvation. There is no salvation apart from Yeshua and His atoning work.
                                                                                     Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets.1 I did not come to destroy but to complete. Footnote: 1The Law and the Prophets is a term used for the pre-Messianic Scriptures.
Mat 5:18 “For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done.1 Footnote: 1Lk. 16:17.
Mat 5:19 “Whoever, then, breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens. 
Yeshua told his disciples "if you love me keep my commands." Obedience is a demonstration of our love for him.
It is not about keeping the law perfectly.  It is about demonstrating our love for Messiah.
  • Michael Race Joh 14:21 “He who possesses My commands and guards them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and manifest Myself to him.”
This word "guard"  is also found many times in Deuteronomy.  It has the meaning of
Consuming with one's might or life the words that come from the most high
Deu 4:2
"Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it1, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. Footnote: 1See also 12:32, Prov. 30:6, Rev. 22:18-19.
We will continue this in the next post.  Thank you for your time here.
 
 


 
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